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« on: July 03, 2009, 09:20:16 PM »

I'm a filet mignon fanatic and love red meat. These are pricey filets and I haven't ordered from Allen Brothers but has anyone here or do you know of anyone who has?

http://www.allenbrothers.com/wagyu-filets.html
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2009, 09:34:10 PM »

2 filets - 6 oz. ea.   $115.95


am I seeing this right?
2 pieces of 6 oz. meat for $115.95

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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2009, 09:45:13 PM »

Wow, Ricky.

Why not go to Ruth's Chris and have them cook it for you and throw in a few sides for much less?



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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2009, 09:55:20 PM »

I know nothing about these guys, but Omaha Steaks has good meat.

Actually the best way to go is to raise your own steer or heifer, possibly going in with someone else. Especially if they do the raising and you can trust them. Corn fed beef and silage eating beef raised on the uncle's farm will render the best tasting meat.

Growing up, I got spoiled on Porterhouse steaks, my favorite steak. A few years ago I ordered and ate some alleged Porterhouse steak and it was some of the raggediest tasting steak I've ever had in my life. I never had any fat or gristle on any Porterhouse steak previously. Homegrown is always the best.

And you get to choose the cuts you want at the meat cutters. And then just stash it in your freezer. If it's local you don't have to mess with shipping. And you can go visit your meat while it's being raised.

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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2009, 10:03:47 PM »

Wow, Ricky.

Why not go to Ruth's Chris and have them cook it for you and throw in a few sides for much less?



http://www.ruthschris.com/

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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2009, 10:05:03 PM »

I know nothing about these guys, but Omaha Steaks has good meat.

Actually the best way to go is to raise your own steer or heifer, possibly going in with someone else. Especially if they do the raising and you can trust them. Corn fed beef and silage eating beef raised on the uncle's farm will render the best tasting meat.

Growing up, I got spoiled on Porterhouse steaks, my favorite steak. A few years ago I ordered and ate some alleged Porterhouse steak and it was some of the raggediest tasting steak I've ever had in my life. I never had any fat or gristle on any Porterhouse steak previously. Homegrown is always the best.

And you get to choose the cuts you want at the meat cutters. And then just stash it in your freezer. If it's local you don't have to mess with shipping. And you can go visit your meat while it's being raised.

Trease

I wish I could have a cow raised for us. I order at Omaha Steaks and their filets are good. And I recently ordered grass fed beef from here: http://www.grasslandbeef.com/StoreFront.bok

The beef from Allen Brothers was more of a "treat", but I definitely wouldn't eat it all the time.
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2009, 10:46:29 PM »

Um, Ricky, cows give milk. Steers and heifers are raised for meat. Cattle can go either way. I come from a long line of dairy cattleman on my mom's side. But they also raised their own meat.

Oh yeah, I forgot another alternative. Check out any local butchers who cut and dress the meat. They also sell to the public. That might be a good way to go. And I'm not talking about the grocery store... just a butcher with his meat market.

Or, if your set on Allen Brothers Meat, see if you can barter with them.

Oh yeah, sometimes members of the Future Farmers of America or  the 4-H club raise and then sell their beef cattle. Check them out. Your local high school or the Farm Coop or County Extension Farm Agent might know where you can get some fresh beef.

My little brother, that was on David Letterman raised one of our steers one year.

The steer was more of a big and heavy baby. When he got loose he would try to get on the back porch and get in the house because he knew that's where the potato peelings came from. But if you shook and rattled a big dog food bag you could get him back in his pen. He never would run into the cornfield... he always stayed in the yard.

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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2009, 11:21:00 PM »

Oops! I said for "much less". I was thinking $115 a filet, not 2 for $115. It would be about the same.

But I did see Ruth's Chris is running a $39.95 lunch special right now.
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2009, 12:38:16 AM »

Or, if your set on Allen Brothers Meat, see if you can barter with them.

I like bartering. I made a website for a local ranch that sells grass-finished beef and we get our beef from them for free now and for the next several months.
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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2009, 05:45:56 AM »

Um, Ricky, cows give milk. Steers and heifers are raised for meat.

Last time I checked, the terms cow and heifer applied equally to dairy and beef cattle. Heifer is the term for female cattle that have not had their first calf. It's just that female beef cattle not intended to be used for breeding remain heifers until slaughter.

Anyway, as for the beef in the first link...

The steaks in the first link is so expensive because it's Waygu tenderloin. I'll tell you a secret about tenderloin, though... Grade matters much less with tenderloin than with other cuts of beef. The grade is determined by the amount of marbling in the meat of the whole animal. Prime tenderloin may not have any more marbling than ungraded tenderloin. Since the tenderloin muscle does no work, it has very little collagen, which is what makes meat tough. So it really doesn't matter how much marbling is in it, it's always a tender cut.

Personally, I'll stick with the tenderloin from the local store. One of the local grocery chains has whole PSMO tenderloin on sale every now and then for $3.99 a pound. I've still got two in the freezer from the last sale they had.
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2009, 11:05:13 AM »

2 filets - 6 oz. ea.   $115.95


am I seeing this right?
2 pieces of 6 oz. meat for $115.95

Sounds like Allen Brothers Meat competes on value, not price.  I'm not familiar with the company, but I'll bet their marketing strategy and materials would be very instructive to study.

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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2009, 11:33:00 AM »

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Sounds like Allen Brothers Meat competes on value, not price

Probably more like ego massaging.
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2009, 11:50:42 AM »

Hesster,
Cows do give milk. Heifers don't. You're probably right about cows being a term for both dairy cattle and beef cattle.

I got that from my dad, but he wasn't a dairy farmer. He used to correct me when I called beef cattle cows. He was lived on a ranch when he was young. And one of his uncles was a real cowboy and would take Dad to the stockyards with him when the uncle was buying and selling cattle.

The uncle had a third grade education and my dad could do the figures in his head lightning fast.

I knew more marbling wasn't good, but I never knew why.

But is it only the heifers and steers that are used for meat, while the bulls and cows are used only for breeding purposes? That might have been what my dad was getting at when he used to correct me.

Good post Hesster.

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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2009, 02:20:42 PM »

Probably more like ego massaging.

Which is fine.  Value has many faces.

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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2009, 05:44:31 PM »

Hesster,
Cows do give milk. Heifers don't. You're probably right about cows being a term for both dairy cattle and beef cattle.

I got that from my dad, but he wasn't a dairy farmer. He used to correct me when I called beef cattle cows. He was lived on a ranch when he was young. And one of his uncles was a real cowboy and would take Dad to the stockyards with him when the uncle was buying and selling cattle.

The uncle had a third grade education and my dad could do the figures in his head lightning fast.

I knew more marbling wasn't good, but I never knew why.

But is it only the heifers and steers that are used for meat, while the bulls and cows are used only for breeding purposes? That might have been what my dad was getting at when he used to correct me.

Good post Hesster.

Trease

Well, only cows give milk because they only produce milk when they've had a calf. Heifers haven't had a calf, so no milk. All mammals are like that. Biologically speaking, there's no use wasting energy making milk when there's no baby to drink it. So you're correct that only cows can give milk. Unless they've been given those funky rBST hormones to force them to lactate without giving birth, of course. So the term cow would apply to both dairy cattle, and beef cattle that were used for breeding, after they had their first calf.

With beef cattle destined for slaughter, it doesn't make sense to breed them, because pregnancy causes a drain on the mother that could be going into producing more beef, thus better price at slaughter. So that's why heifers are for slaughter. Smiley

My mom was a farm girl, so that's where I picked up all the info about cows. Smiley
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